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Lithril Ashwalker · Jun 10, 2011, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

They should just do what they did with reward points, you don't get a box if you have less than 1000 rating.

i prefer consecutive wins to get a strong box that way everyon has to actually DO something, making a guild get a rating of 1000 in order to acclaim a box would screw up the economy PVE wise as well as pvp however WOULD get more GVG active. other than the GvG change you suggested, what would u do about HA and such?....exactly

Ximvotn · Jun 10, 2011, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Giving stronboxes to certain ranked guild won't do much that will only make those who are rich more rich. The variety of solutions are very slim.

*lemming* · Jun 10, 2011, 01:43 AM // 01:43

As opposed to... making gold sellers more rich?

I mean, how many guilds that are genuinely encouraged to play more ladder by the promise of boxes are below rating 1000/950/900?

UnicornStampede · Jun 10, 2011, 03:28 AM // 03:28

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Originally Posted by lemming

There's already a moratorium on resigns, btw. Resigning before 2 minutes doesn't give the other team boxes.

Yes, they resign right away, so they can go into another match and fight another sync guild, and the non sync guilds don't get any boxes. What I'm saying is make it so you can't resign before 5 min, so they have to wait 5 min before they go into another match.

Gabriel of Ravn · Jun 10, 2011, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by i farm baddies

also gw just loves throwing me wads of $$$. i dont even have a job and buy all this expensive shit. ahhh gotta love being a professional gw player.

Have fun making an actual career out of it.

Now on topic after that laugh, short of removing strongboxes from the game not sure there is anything to be done about this unless you want to start waving the ban scythe around.

cataphract · Jun 10, 2011, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

A rollback might have been a good idea if we were still in maybe the first twelve or so hours of this getting exploited. At this point, these guilds have been doing this for days, and everyone else has been playing the game as they see fit. Rollbacks affect everyone, not just those who are doing this.

You do realise that was me trolling people, right? I just can't help it when I see all that greed.

Terrible Surgeon · Jun 10, 2011, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Spammable rewards=abuse so remove rewards and there you go. GvG should only have RPs for at/mat and cape trims as rewards. If you you have honor thats more than enough incentive to try being good at gvg/pvp.

UnicornStampede · Jun 10, 2011, 06:15 AM // 06:15

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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

Spammable rewards=abuse so remove rewards and there you go. GvG should only have RPs for at/mat and cape trims as rewards. If you you have honor thats more than enough incentive to try being good at gvg/pvp.

and gvg goes back to dead, because all of the pvp guilds that would gvg aren't gvging and are now doing other pvp arenas, ha,codex,etc, because you can get boxes from them. I suggest stop posting.

cataphract · Jun 10, 2011, 06:18 AM // 06:18

So we're better off with people abusing the system and getting rich off the rewards than not having an exploitable system in the first place?

And to think you told Surgeon to stop posting... /facepalm

Missing HB · Jun 10, 2011, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Until the number of syncers or people willing to abuse the system are easily 3 times more than the number of serious GvG'ers , there's nothing that can be done in my opinion...
Putting 975 points at minimum would be good, but i'm not sure if people would still not abuse then...

Our Virus · Jun 10, 2011, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Code: no strongboxes if the match takes less than 2minutes. Problem solved

lursey · Jun 10, 2011, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Our Virus

Code: no strongboxes if the match takes less than 2minutes. Problem solved

not really, it just slow down the supply of strongboxes, they can wait 2 mins then resign

_Aphotic_ · Jun 10, 2011, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Random and possibly different:

Customize all weapons, tonics, and minipets to the character who opens it upon acquisition. Put a note on the box that says "All non-consumable items obtained from this box will be customized and can only be used by the character who obtains the item upon opening the box."

Of course, this could lead to two completely different cases:
-Heavy rise in Strongbox prices due to increased rarity and lack of availability of the non-consumable items.
-Extreme drop in Strongbox prices due to lack of desire to obtain the non-consumable item as well as IF A HEAVY RISE IN PRICES OCCURS, people will avoid buying it simply due to its lackluster reward. ~ once you obtain the item, it is forever yours. You can't power trade it.

Of course the other problem (and possibly bigger) is ZKeys....
Customize the rewards from the ZChest too?... not in the long history of GW.
Hope that ZKey prices eventually fall to 1k each, or at least a lower price than current (OMG 5K), should the above mentioned idea actually occur in some form or another.

*lemming* · Jun 10, 2011, 07:36 AM // 07:36

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Originally Posted by Our Virus

Code: no strongboxes if the match takes less than 2minutes. Problem solved

That's already implemented.

cataphract · Jun 10, 2011, 08:05 AM // 08:05

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Originally Posted by _Aphotic_

Random and possibly different:

It's way easier to just remove them alltogether.

Reverend Dr · Jun 10, 2011, 08:32 AM // 08:32

I really needs a ranking requirement that will prevent these farming guilds while not discouraging completely fresh guilds that will not be top tier quality.

That's all it needs. As has been said before about 950-900 ranking.

UnicornStampede · Jun 10, 2011, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by cataphract

So we're better off with people abusing the system and getting rich off the rewards than not having an exploitable system in the first place?

And to think you told Surgeon to stop posting... /facepalm

Listen

We're better off having the game actually active and being able to play GvG, along with people abusing the system, then nobody gvging because there's no incentive to play.I couldn't honestly care less about people having loads of cash if they abuse the system, if you still have the game active and being able to play. But I know all of the people who only PvE will get butthurt about people not honorably getting their items (like ppl who protect speed clears), that's what i suggest a system to cease the amount of money they get from this per hour.

(fun fact: this game was originally designed to be focused on PvP, it's roughly when Factions came out is when Anet learned that they made more money with PvE than PvP, so that's what they focused on.)

What I suggested is making it you can't resign before 5 min, so it will take them a lot longer to go into another match. Because what's happening is if the sync guilds don't get matched with each other, they just resign right away, making it <1min to go in another match. My suggestion makes it less profitable for them if they just abused another aspect of the game (trust me, there's a lot of easy abusable mechanics to make a lot of money.)

Or actually the low rating guilds not getting boxes works as well, since i'm tired of 5 round at's every day.

making the game active and being able to play+ppl getting money>game dead.

And you do realize that if you just remove the GvG boxes, GvG will become completely dead in the casual scene and most of the competitive scene, because why do GvG (no boxes), when you can do tombs,CA,RA. (boxes).

-Martian- · Jun 10, 2011, 09:16 AM // 09:16

I'd like to know what aNet is thinking/going to do about this...

Exploit the game like this way just ruins what good is left in GW1...

Draca · Jun 10, 2011, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Here's what i think about it

to solve this we can:
1. Set no rewards if the game is shorter then 10min maybe even 15min
2. Make it so you can enter a other gvg until 15min after you started the last one.

i like #1 best since it doesn't break anything else and i don't see even games lasting less then 15min.

UnicornStampede · Jun 10, 2011, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by Draca

Here's what i think about it

to solve this we can:
1. Set no rewards if the game is shorter then 10min maybe even 15min
2. Make it so you can enter a other gvg until 15min after you started the last one.

i like #1 best since it doesn't break anything else and i don't see even games lasting less then 15min.

With trip derv meta, most games last about 5-10 min. And you don't want the winning team just afking until they can win to get boxes.